ISF: Macron says he is ready to “condition” the reform

“It is perhaps necessary to repackage more the part of the suppressed ISF” if “the objective of the return or the maintenance of the productive capital” is not reached, estimated the head of the State Monday, during of a debate of 8:10 – his record – Monday evening with 64 intellectuals. Emmanuel Macron declared himself in favor of the “evaluation” of the IFI, before highlighting “the redistributive effect of the reform of the taxation of capital”, specifying that “if it is observed that it does not is not effective, it must be corrected “. According to Emmanuel Macron, “one of the points that we did not explain well on this subject, the heart of the reform of the taxation of capital, was to re-attract productive capital or to keep it in France , and it is thus perhaps necessary to condition more, on the part ISF which was completely removed, the part of reinvestment “.

Emmanuel Macron, on the other hand, rejected an increase in inheritance taxes as the experiment of a basic universal income. “In France, the productive capital that creates jobs has not been sufficiently kept. Leaving the big debate with a big debate on the taxation of capital is not the right answer. Let us launch an international reflection, I am in favor, to do so in France would be a counter-signal, “he replied. “We got into this debate on a tax that some people paid too much. I don’t think we get out of it by making others pay,” he added. “In a country where people are afraid for inheritance, I will not open the subject of tweaking the inheritance tax, because everyone would feel concerned,” even the most modest, he continued.

He defended with the same firmness the non-accumulation of mandates, contested by some in the name of contact with the field. “It is a question of the organization of parliamentary time. I am not sure that increasing the number of mandates makes it possible to better feel the territory,” he said. Emmanuel Macron also tried to describe the “deliberative democracy” he wants to build at the end of the great debate. Rejecting at the same time the “permanent referendum” and the only electoral meetings, he imagined “a deliberative democracy which supposes, if the consensus is estimated, that one takes the decision”. He cited as an example the Irish referendums, which relate to texts emanating from Parliament.

The “yellow vests”, the embodiment of social networks

For him, the “yellow vests” are the “translation into reality of what is happening on social networks”, namely “uninhibited language and very great violence on condition of anonymity”. “What I can do on social networks, now I do it in the street, anonymity becomes a balaclava, a helmet, and I can do the worst in a place that is not mine, destroy businesses, which do not belong to anyone and have no reality “, he described, referring to the violence of Saturday in Paris.

“And all the words are the same”, as on social networks where “I can insult the President of the Republic on Twitter but also build trust spaces with people who say like me. I no longer confront others”, he commented. Responding to the writer Pascal Bruckner, who called for a return of public order, Emmanuel Macron estimated that the violence on Saturday was the result of “riots of thugs, not demonstrators” and recalled that the government has decided to ban demonstrating on the Champs-Elysées and in several city centers. He also answered on the widening of inequalities, the reform of the law of 1905, the place of research or the ecological transition.

“A dysfunction of contemporary capitalism”

Inequalities and the importance of inheritance are “a dysfunction of contemporary capitalism, but if I open this debate, I kill the policy that I lead” which focuses on the capacity to invest, he ruled. In passing, the economist Philippe Martin told him that he could not assess the effect of the abolition of the ISF without having the individual data of taxpayers.

On the law of 1905, he reaffirmed that he did not wish to modify it but felt that “we have a subject with Islam” in particular with organizations which have a “political vision of Islam” which may be incompatible. with the laws of the Republic. “We must not give up anything”, especially at school, but “we must pacify this relationship”, he added.

Finally, he acknowledged that on his project to extend the PMA, “some debates have not died down”.

Among his guests were the psychologist Boris Cyrulnik, the economists Jean Pisani-Ferry, Yann Algan and Daniel Cohen, the sociologists Luc Boltanski and Michel Wieviorka, the philosophers Frédéric Worms and Monique Canto-Sperber, the climatologist Jean Jouzel or the physicist Claude Cohen. -Tannoudji. Some left-wing intellectuals have declined, such as the economist Frédéric Lordon.

As the evening progressed, the village hall was partly emptied, those who had already spoken gradually leaving, invoking the late hour. This meeting marked the 11th great debate of the Head of State, who has crisscrossed France since January 15 to meet mayors, citizens or young people from a dozen regions.

(with AFP)